I threw inFremont and Boone in case he's driving that way, or in case wanderlusttakes him east the same way my "as long as I'm in the neighborhood"reasoning got me to Albuquerque when I'd only planned on going as farsouthwest as Denver. Frisco always changed freight crews at Newburg, MO but my grandpa as passenger conductor changed at Monett, MO, which was farther down the line. I spent quite a few summers in Miles City (my dad's home town) during the 1970's and heard Harlowton mentioned quite a few times, but don't recall hearing about Melstone. Ogden, Salt Lake Cityor Pocatello is after Green River. Forsome railroaders getting in on the other end, actually either end, the first thing they think about is beer. In the early 1970's the law was changed to 14 hours and subsequently todays 12 hours. Garrett - Chciago is about 150 miles while Williard - Chicago is around 280. They can be added if employees work during periods that are more in demand. To participate you must either login or register for an account. In order to get a minimum speed of 12 or so MPH on the 0.5% ruling grades, the locomotives should have been able to maintain 25 or more MPH on level track, hence my wondering about 200 mile crew changes. These stories highlight some of our favorite examples of how we apply innovation to railroading. Staying at one of the lodging motels can be interesting, but I wouldnt suggest being too inquiring these days. Today, 41 years later and the HOS at 12 hours (changed Dec. 26, 1972) the crew usually do not have trouble making it from SLO to LA (which is still inter-divisional, but only a one ended pool). I'd wonder if the average speed of the slowest Milwaukee freights on the Trans-Missouri Division during the first generation diesel era would have been more like 25 MPH as opposed to 12.5 MPH. 15. Things changed since Sept 11, 2001. I find it ironic that the MILW expandend some of their districts just as deferredmaintenance caused speeds to drop. Zug, you guys must have really been tired. Seems I recall a map in trains a while back showing this. Something unheard of even 5 years ago, just before the bottom dropped out. All in all, it is an interesting aspect to the industry. "And as far as working 40 hours per trip, again what they're not telling you is, yes, we may be on a train for seven to eight hours going to our destination or back," she said. They seem to use the Williard crews for the long distance intermodals (from east coast) and Williards for the manifests and commodity trains. Then run pools (through Clinton) to Missouri Valley (hot intermodals only), to Boone (everything else), and pools to Des Moines and Mason City. I was wondering about crewchangepoints along the UP and BNSF in the Midwest. The only BNSF jobs @ Kingman is a daytime rd swtchr followed by a afternoon one. Intermodal traffic ships in containers or trailers and is, in many cases, high-priority. I haven't heard of this in a long time, so maybe this was a failed idea. (Which I don't happen to remember.). BNSF Railways first-in-the-industry Tribal Relations program seeks to build and strengthen ties with the many diverse tribal nations on BNSFs network, and to foster within BNSF a greater cultural understanding of these tribal nations, their rights and governance, cultural resources, and other crucial issues. where are they south of La Crosse? Thanks in advance for your help.Ken Stitzel wrote: You do not have permission to delete messages in this group. Jeff, can you tell us the reason for having the two pools (short and long)? Within these districts there are pools that work to/from intermediate terminals, such as Clinton to Marshalltown. ), then Ogden? Points are deducted for taking time off, especially at times that the railroad deems inconvenient. UP is Distributive Power only.BNSF is all trains over 8000 tons and some under that.No distributive power. Correct, the hours of service were changed as follows: 16 hours to 14 hours on December 26, 1970, 14 hours to 12 hours on December 26, 1972. No matter what you're shipping, BNSF has a service to meet your needs. Nothing against the over-eager railfans, but the only thing we wanted to think about was sleep. Learn more about what it means to do business with BNSF and the process we use for working with suppliers. Satellite view on Google maps shows a lot of empty lots in the town and I guess that the population may have been 300 to 500 at its peak. Can someone in road service choosewhich pool to work in? The satellite view clearly shows impressions of a turntable and roundhouse across the highway from the town. I wish I had asked a trainman how the pay was calculated, since some of the turn arounds were short. - Erik. erikem Things changed since Sept 11, 2001. But I hear it is coming. And, crew change points were (and still are)not always the same for engine crews and for train crews on the same train. / Belen / Clovis / Avard? Nothing against the over-eager railfans, but the only thing we wanted to think about was sleep. If I had not already packed my 1893 Guide in preparation for moving, I could give you the name of each road. BNSF crews frequently change crews here at Eola yard in Aurora, IL. She apologized andI pardoned her and let her go on to wherever it was she needed to go quickly. From then to now trains on this subdivision are crewed by running trades employees whose home terminals are at Toronto and Smiths Falls. For instance, Sanford, Florida, was the south end of one railroad and the north end of another; both roads were absorbed by the Plant System--which went into the Atlantic Coast Line. The 100 mile day was based on how far you would travel in 8 hours at a speed of 12.5 mph. While they have been built to provide lodging for AFHT crews, they are open to the public as well. Highlighting our commitment to safety, service, communities and our heritage. At times they will change within minutes of stopping at the "crosswalk" where employees cross the mainline, and at other times the incoming crew will "tie down" their train on the main-line and the train will wait for literally hours on the main for the outgoing (new) crew. For some reason, I always thought crew change points were determined by how long it took to get there. A minor correction to Agentkid's posting. Now, nearly 100 percent of the route is double-tracked; only two bridges remain single-tracked along the route. Retirees may not work at BNSF any longer, but many are active in their communities and play an important role as unofficial ambassadors for BNSF. Usually, the two crew districts that abutted became one double-ended district. Classic Railroad Scenes: Railroads at Work. For some reason, I always thought crew change points were determined by how long it took to get there. "A Train is a Place Going Somewhere" CP Rail Public Timetable. Here there be cats. * Pueblo east: ??? A couple less employees to receive benefits. Raton, NM??? Charlie TrainBoard Member. One of my easterly buddies is coming to Colorado for some extensiverailfanning this spring. Zug, I still enjoy talking with railroad employees, but I am very careful about initiating conversations. BNSF modified their policy on June 1. * Denver northeast: Sterling, CO? He likes to check out places where railroads do crew changes and puton helpers, etc. I have to look thru some stuff, but I think they used to change at Melstone, MT. On the CPR, in Canada, the longest crew district is the Brooks Sub. The project required the company to move about 3.6 million tons of rock, lay 5 miles of new track, and build nine new bridges with a combined length of about 3,000 feet. I haven't heard of this in a long time, so maybe this was a failed idea. Subscribers, sign in to access exclusive content. 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All engine crews changed in McComb; thus all passenger engine crews ran 100 miles from start to finish. This doesn't mean that runs were only 100 miles then or 130 miles now. Back in the 60's, the SP had a run out of Los Angeles to Santa Barbara, CA. Existing Suppliers may access the Supplier Portal here. I'm not sure if crews run through from Keddie to Stockton, or if there is a crew change at Marysville, CA. And, crew change points were (and still are)not always the same for engine crews and for train crews on the same train. Correct, the hours of service were changed as follows: 16 hours to 14 hours on December 26, 1970, 14 hours to 12 hours on December 26, 1972. In Canada CN began running longer crew districts on the prairies in the 1990's, I think. U.S. and global economies rely on rail, and BNSF is a vital link in the global supply chain. BNSF moves about a third of all intermodal volume in North America. However, the longestcrew division is CP's Belleville Subdivision from Smiths Falls ONto Toronto Yard (197 track miles) where the Toronto Terminal officially begins or ends. Get the answers to the questions most commonly asked about BNSF. Thanks in advance! I know OTR truckers are only to work so many hours before they have to sign out and rest. Allan_Love_Jr, Aug 26, 2007 #1. It is interesting when you look at old ETT's. Approaches to the bridge had to stay under the ruling grade for the area of 1.4%. Anything north of Cheyenne WYor south of Pueblo, CO, I don't know much about. BNSF modified their policy on June 1. I guess you're right. The BNSF classification yard looking east. You there, Mr. Lee? "However, just last week, I sat down in Guernsey for 27 hours in the hotel waiting to come home.". It's a way to stay informed about the company, learn more about how freight rail contributes to our way of life, explore the company's rich history and connect with other BNSF supporters. Back in my road days, when we'd end up at a hotel after a very long and tiring trip, and some guy who was obviously an over-eager railfan would see us and ask us if we were railroaders, we'd always answer: NOPE! At the time we were having trouble going from Boone to Clinton in 12 hours. I guess you're right. In older times, it would take much longer as the trains were slower. Why Sign In? Sign-up for email today! Drawback for those that don't live near Clinton is the drive. The additional high iron allows 70-mph intermodal trains to leap ahead of slower-moving merchandise and unit trains at crew-change points, which BNSF says will alleviate congestion, boost average train speed, and improve service on the busiest intermodal route in North America. With only one curve sharper than 3 degrees between the two points, the track alignment was well suited for 50 to 60 MPH freight running - though track maintenance may have been another story. The Milwaukee Road in the 1970s combined orchanged some crew districts, both on the Puget Sound extension and elsewhere. In 1992, Santa Fe began a decades-long project to double-track the 512 miles of the route that remained single-tracked. Or, did they get rid of it because there was too much congestion / delays east of Clinton? Her husband is also a conductor. / KC / Ft. Madison / Chicago. There are quite a few who live in central Iowa and drive 200 miles to work the pool. There are quite a few who live in central Iowa and drive 200 miles to work the pool. Currently, it's possible to make Clinton and tie up within 6 hours on duty, on a coal train no less. It's grown enough that engineer's need about half of that, even less for conductors. Each employee begins with 30 points for a career, Knutson said. Each intermodal train carries as much freight as 280 trucks, helping alleviate congestion on our nation's highways. Same with RR'ers in TEY service. This was a 4-mile, single-track chokepoint until March 2011, when the railroad completed a 30-month, $85 million effort to push through a second track. Othello, WA to Tacoma, WA, running thru Cle Elum was also instituted.
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